JL Goes International, and to ETFs…… Oh my!

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Sometimes we do things that seem minor to us but somehow create a stir in others. So it seems with a couple of, to me, minor adjustments I recently made to the Collins portfolios.

If you care, here’s the scoop.

 

Adding International

A couple of weeks ago I recorded an interview with Jack, a podcaster in Poland. In it I gave the investing advice that I have always given my international audience:

Choose a World Fund

My specific recommendation is Vanguard’s Total World Stock Index Fund VTWAX or the ETF version VT, as it has been since this post in 2012.

This is in contrast to my traditional recommendation for US investors (like my daughter): Vanguard’s Total Stock Market Index Fund VTSAX, or VTI for the ETF version.  Fund or ETF, the portfolio is the same.

What I tell my international readers/listeners is that the US is the only economy in the world that is large enough and dominate enough that we Americans can get away with investing only in our own country. Anywhere else in the world investors are better served with a world fund. I also say that the time will come when US investors will be better served doing so as well.

My guess was this was unlikely to happen in my lifetime, but that it is something my daughter and other younger US investors should watch for. Turns out this past year may have accelerated the timeline.

 

A little bit of history

At the end of World War II, the US was the only country not in ashes. We were essentially the world economy. But then, with the help of the US Marshal Plan, the rest of the world began to rebuild. Obviously good for them, but also good for the US. Robust economies flourish best with robust trading partners.

The pie that represented the world economy began to see explosive growth. Where it used to be over 50% US, that percentage began to shrink as the rest of the world recovered. While the US share shrank, the pie grew dramatically such that our economy grew much larger and stronger as well.

By 1960 the US share of global GDP was ~40%. Currently it is ~25%. The the US GDP in 1945 was ~2.5 trillion. In 1960, ~3.5 trillion. Currently it is ~32 trillion. If you are curious, China comes in at #2 with ~21 trillion and Germany is a distant 3rd at ~5 trillion

Smaller share, but a much, much larger world GDP. A great trade.

Looking at equities, companies we can easily invest in, the US accounts for about ~46% of global equity market capitalization. China is again #2 at ~14% and the EU is #3 with between 8-12%.

In 1945 the US had ~80% of the global equity market capitalization. By 1960 it was ~65%. So you can see the slow but steady trend, and you can see why I figured there would be time before the US share dropped below, say, 40% where I’d begin considering going to a world fund for US investors.

 

So what changed?

I try hard to avoid politics on this blog, and I could be wrong, but in short here’s my take:

The economic policies of this administration have me concerned.

Tariffs, and especially the erratic implementation of them, are teaching our allies and enemies alike that the US is no longer a reliable trading partner. In response they are turning to each other to form new and stronger trading bonds and to diminish the dominance of the US on the world stage. These tariffs are also likely to be very inflationary once companies are no longer willing or/and able to absorb them.

The US dollar has been the world reserve currency since the end of World War II, but more and more other countries are seeking to trade in other currencies. Many would dearly love to displace the dollar as that reserve currency, just as the dollar replaced the British Pound after WWII. We are fortunate that now, unlike then, there is no obvious, viable alternative. So far.

Last year the dollar dropped in value against other currencies by ~10%, the largest drop in 50 years. Oh, and there is that pesky little issue of our debt, currently soaring toward 40 Trillion Dollars ($40,000,000,000,000).

2025 was an exceedingly robust year for stocks worldwide. The US as measured by the S&P 500 returned 16.4%. The average over the last 50 years has been ~12% making this exceedingly strong return. As long as you don’t look at the rest of the world that is.

Of the 30 top performing countries, the worst performer was still up ~11%. That was India. Second worst, the US with that 16.4%.

Most of Europe was over 30% and not a single EU country was less than 20%. China returned ~30%, as did Canada. Mexico came in at only #10 on the list, good for ~55%. Against this backdrop, 16.4% is embarrassing.

For these reasons, I see that declining trend of the US share of the world economy described above accelerating.

 

What have I done?

To be clear, I remain very bullish on America and it has only been one year. As I used to say about adding international, if you want to remain 100% in US stocks you’ll get no push back from me. My equity exposure remains predominantly US although it is now in VTI rather that VTSAX. (more on this below)

However, in the Collins IRAs we are now in VT (Vanguard’s Total World Stock Index ETF). By making the change in the IRAs, we avoid it being a taxable event and the capital gains tax that would otherwise apply.

Since the IRAs are only part of our net worth and since I am unwilling to pay the cap gain tax to move anything else, you can see my concern here is still fairly small. This is not the end of America.

Further, as a world fund and the US being the dominate equity source in the world, fully 62.5% of VT’s stocks are US companies. 

In short, I have moved a part of our holdings into an ETF that has mostly US stocks and a modest 37.5% in international stocks. Moreover, these percentages will automatically adjust as the world changes over time. Whether that change is fast or slow.

Not a big dramatic deal, at least in my eyes. Especially if you actually understand what I’ve said about international investing all along.

 

What was my position on international investing before this?

Way back in 2012 I posted this piece:

 Stock Series Part XI: International Funds 

In it I lay out my reasons for not feeling the need for international. I’ll let you read it for yourself.

If you do you’ll hear me say, “I don’t feel the need to invest further in international specific funds. Your world view, however, may lead you to a different conclusion…”

From there I go on to recommend the very fund/ETF, VTWAX/VT, I just bought. Fortunately it has gotten cheaper since then when its ER was .22%. It is now only .06%.

I have never been strongly opposed to having international exposure, I just felt the need had yet to come. But things change and that change seems to be coming sooner than I would have guessed in 2012.

 

Yeah, but Mr. VTSAX is now buying ETFs???

This is an even smaller deal than the international move, so feel free to remain in VTSAX if you like. Indeed, I would have if I wasn’t already making changes to the portfolio. Which I almost never do.

ETFs first burst on the scene in the early 1990s, and VTI (Vanguard’s Total Stock Market Index ETF version of VTSAX) was introduced in 2001.

One of the key reasons they were created was to facilitate trading, which of course in the polar opposite of The Simple Path approach. Plus they frequently entailed the extra cost of trading commissions when they were bought and sold.

For these and other minor reasons I won’t bore you with, I have always been cool toward them.

As the trading costs faded away and their ERs dropped, my opposition softened. It became, “They are fine as long as you resist the urge to trade.”

When it came time to look at a World Fund, the ER of VTWAX was .09% while VT was .06%. So VT got the nod. Cheaper is better.

Then, while I was in the Vanguard website anyway, I figured I might as well switch from VTSAX (.04%) to VTI (.03%). That difference is tiny and I wouldn’t have bothered otherwise (and indeed hadn’t for years) but Vanguard makes it stupid easy and it is not a taxable event.

 

So, there you have it

These are the rare and small changes I’ve personally made. You can join me, or not. You’ll be fine either way.

Don’t lose sight of what is important than these minor adjustments:

Acquiring shares in low-cost, broad-based stock index funds/ETFs, staying the course through the inevitable market drops, and holding forever.

The only thing is, you might want to replace your…

VTSAX and Chill

shirt with

VTI and Chill

or 

VT and Chill

…depending on whether you follow me into ETFs and/or overseas or not. 😉

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    Comments

    1. Mark says

      Personally, I took people at their word, anticipated the chaos, and made tax friendly moves into international funds last November. I believe some here used a derogatory term to refer to me and my proposed course of action. Trumpanoia or something like that. Whatever. I appreciate that you were willing to call it like you see it. I know it is hard. I don’t usually like making moves based on politics either, because politicians generally have a lot less influence on the economy than we would think. But this time is different, there are real long term negative consequences, and I still hope to need a portfolio in 30 years.

    2. Kevin says

      I would argue that the US based total stock market (VTI or VTSAX) already provides significant international exposure. It is dominated by global companies that have significant portions of their revenue base coming from outside the US and many have significant operation outside the US.

      For example, Alphabet gets 52% of revenue from international markets and has 25% of assets in international locations.

      • Mr CF says

        Good point Kevin, but there seems to be a slow change of various countries steering away from American tech & products, due to the strained relations and the risks that the great orange leader is posing. Getting more direct exposure to international companies might not actually be a bad idea for the longer term, just as a way to directly diversify rather than indirectly via US stocks.

      • Foo says

        You go international to diversify away from country-specific risk, and that has nothing to do with revenue source. Staying in VTI does nothing to shield you from US-policy kerfuffles, diversifying into VXUS or switching to VT does.

    3. Joe says

      VT and Chill became my philosophy after DJT’s first term, at that point it was clear a few poor leadership years can erode a lifetime of investing.

        • Bruno Bontempi says

          An impressive loss, followed by an even more impressive recovery. In part it was due to COVID, right?
          But we can see something similar in the Bush-Obama transition. The toy passes from hand to hand, but sometimes it is a broken toy, which is one of the reasons that it changes hands.

    4. Michael says

      Thanks, JL. Interesting perspective.

      Curious if your daughter will be making any changes? I more resemble her in my investing journey.

    5. James J Zeeb says

      Hi JL,

      Big fan, read your books and adopted the simple plan with my kids and family members.

      How do you feel about an IRA portfolio of 50% VT S&P fund and 50% VTWAX?

      It’s still about 80% US stocks, adding international diversification while also leveraging US S&P’s historically outperformance of VTSAX. Your thoughts?

      • JL Collins says

        VT & VTWAX are the same portfolio. ETF & Fund versions. VT has the lower ER, so that was our choice. No need for both.

        If you meant VT and VTSAX, that is basically what we have now after the changes, although I moved from VTSAX to VTI.

    6. Brian Ak says

      Hi JL,
      Excellent and timely post! I hadn’t noticed the uncoupling of the US vs world economies until I looked at our year end return versus the international index funds return. The international return for 2025 was double VTI/VTSAX. That was eye opening to say the least. I moved 20% of our money into VEA in January. My thinking was the world markets are healthier than the US currently and the US dollar is tanking as well. I was glad to hear you confirm my thoughts. I don’t like having to hedge against the US but that is the world we are living in.
      I’m also thinking of moving all of our money into Fidelity zero funds (FZROX/FZILX). My wife’s 401k and our HSA’s are already with Fidelity. The fees don’t cost us that much yearly but it will be simpler having only one provider.
      Thanks,
      Brian

    7. David McPherson says

      Hi JL,

      I’m a huge admirer of yours and am now on a mission to teach people down in Colombia the benefits of avoiding debt, keeping spending under control, and investing in low-cost, broad-based stock index funds/ETFs.

      I think it’s important to note though that for non-US citizens there is a key factor to consider when investing in the Vanguard Total World Stock ETF and that’s estate tax. Here’s what ChatGPT has to say on the subject: “For non-U.S. persons (non-citizens and non-resident aliens), U.S.-situs assets — which include U.S. stocks and U.S.-domiciled ETFs such as VT — are potentially subject to U.S. federal estate tax upon death once the value exceeds about USD 60,000. Above that threshold, the IRS can impose estate tax rates up to ~40% on the value of the assets that exceed the exemption.”

      ChatGPT goes on to say that “an Ireland-domiciled ETF like Vanguard FTSE All-World UCITS ETF (VWRA) — often used as the non-U.S. equivalent to VT — is not considered a U.S.-situs asset for U.S. estate tax purposes. That means that, in general, your heirs wouldn’t be exposed to the U.S. estate tax on these ETF holdings at death.”

      There’s also a further consideration, and that’s how dividends are taxed: As per ChatGPT: “U.S.-domiciled VT: U.S. withholding tax on dividends to non-U.S. investors is usually 30% (unless a tax treaty between the investor’s country and the U.S. reduces it). Ireland-domiciled VWRA: Because of the U.S.–Ireland tax treaty, U.S.-source dividends flowing into an Irish UCITS ETF are typically taxed at 15% at the ETF level, and then there is no additional U.S. estate tax risk.”

      As far as expense ratios, VT is cheaper (0.06%) than VWRA (0.19%), but I believe that gap is not sufficient to make VT the more attractive fund for non-US citizen investors who are building wealth for future generations.

      And one final issue: ChatGPT says “You must also consider how dividends and capital gains are taxed where you live. That varies widely by country and can influence whether an accumulating ETF (one that, like VWRA, reinvests dividends) or a distributing ETF (such as VWRL) is better for your personal situation.

    8. Luis says

      Hi JL, thanks for your updated perspective. As for tariffs, I don’t understand if they do more harm than good, why have other countries utilize them for decades?

      • Saph says

        Tariffs can be an effective economic tool when they are used judiciously on specific types of goods from specific trading partners. Broad sweeping tariffs on nearly everything from nearly every nation like we have today is just plain dumb. That’s the difference.

      • anothermark says

        “Everyone else is doing it” seems to have an outsize influence on the opinions and decisions of many, but a critical thinker realizes that it is not remotely a sufficient justification for any action.

    9. Skip says

      Thanks for taking the time to explain the minor shifts in your philosophy. I’ve always allocated about 10% of my portfolio to international… right in the middle of your past recommendations and what the Bogleheads recommend. Recently, I’ve been thinking about increasing my international exposure a bit, so this is timely food for thought.

    10. John says

      Hi JL. I’ve been 100% C/S&P500 in my TSP, only a couple years in, with about 25 years to retirement. I’m now thinking moving to 60%C and 40%I (International excluding US/China/HK) to mimic VT. Any feedback or thoughts appreciated. Thank you for the book, and the motivation!

    11. FI at 50 says

      There are so many people saying “this time is different,” as well as jumping on international and silver right now due to their high returns last year, all which makes me uncomfortable and I’d rather just stay put.

      At the end you say, “You can join me, or not. You’ll be fine either way.”

      Do you foresee a time when people would NOT be OK staying in only VTSAX?

      • JL Collins says

        For the foreseeable future my guess is VTSAX/VTI will remain solid choices.

        But, as I say in this post, the time will come when it might not be optimal to be invested in only our home country. Just as it is not optimal anywhere else in the world.

        • FI at 50 says

          Thank you. There’s so much panic / rash decisions being made our there right now that it makes me uncomfortable and I don’t know what the right answer is. So I plan to not change right now and just needed some reassurance that was ok.

          We appreciate you!

    12. Ellen C. says

      To switch from VTSAX to the ETF version is not a direct action. I have to sell VTSAX and then wait until that settles so I can buy the ETF. Is that wise?

      • JL Collins says

        If you are switching VTSAX to the ETF version of VTSAX – VTI – it is a simple click on the Vanguard website and not a taxable event.

        However if you mean switching to VT from VTSAX, that is a different portfolio and you would sell VTSAX and then buy VT.

        Outside a tax advantaged account, like a 401k or IRA, this would be a taxable event.

    13. Ellen Louise Guardiano says

      J.L. Collins is an American/Worldwide TREASURE!

      Thank you, Mr. Collins!

      After many years of deviating OFF The Path, I have finally discovered peace!

      Gonna switch, yet again, to VT/VTI/BND/BNDW/Fidelity Money Market accounts from which my Taxable/IRA accounts initiate funds!

      Mr. Collins, what are your recommendations via BND/BNDW, taxable/IRA accounts, please, sir? One other commenter inquired of this. Thank you, kindly!

    14. Ellen Louise Guardiano says

      J.L. Collins is an American/Worldwide TREASURE!

      Thank you, Mr. Collins!

      After many years of deviating OFF The Path, I have finally gotten back on The Road; hence, discovering peace!

      Gonna switch, yet again, to VT/VTI/BND/BNDW/Fidelity Money Market accounts from which my Taxable/IRA accounts initiate funds!

      Mr. Collins, what are your recommendations via BND/BNDW, taxable/IRA accounts, please, sir? One other commenter inquired of this. Thank you, kindly!

      • JL Collins says

        Thank you, Ellen, for the very kind comment. Much appreciated!

        As with my reply to Mark above, I don’t have strong feelings regarding BND/BNDW. BNDW does have the higher yield: 4.10% vs 3.85%.

        Either is best held in a tax advantaged account given that income and to avoid any capital gains if you switch.

    15. R says

      Bravo for you! This is indeed the “Simple” move, as it is a one-fund strategy that requires no rebalancing and avoids home country bias or timing. Ben Felix promotes a total world stock market fund in his Investing 101 Youtube. While US has outperformed the last 100+ years, I’d be much happier lowering my projected returns for a one-fund strategy that doesn’t put all its eggs in one country’s basket (even one with 64% market cap), tying me to a mast I might not want to be on, as past returns are never indicative of future ones and American social democracy certainly isn’t guaranteed. Global cap weight just makes sense from a non-timing perspective, and is in the very literal sense a (truer) total stock market index. I have been a disciple of yours for 9 years, but have been buying VT instead of VTI for the past three years (I too am not going to sell my VTI in my taxable, though). I really want a fund that I can hold for 50 years and not ever have to change or leave it. VT fits that bill more than VTI, even if I sacrifice returns. Single country market dominance is never forever nor something I would want to bet on or attempt to predict/time. And I am young and pro-social democracy, not whatever this *gesticulates widely* is.

    16. JJ says

      Hey JL, what do you recommend for Canadian investors? I currently hold XEQT/VEQT, but I feel like they’re too heavy in Canadian stocks. I’d really appreciate your opinion, as I’m looking for a single ETF to hold for the next three decades. Thanks!

    17. Bruno Bontempi says

      VT’s performance was impressive for sure.
      And the way I see it, it is made of two parts. Earnings growth is the cheese, valuation increase is how many mice go after it.
      Bad US politics negatively affects the valuation of US stocks, and positively affects the valuation of world-ex-US stocks, gold, and so on. As for the effect on earnings growth, it will take a few years to know.

      I only buy or sell a handful of times a year, a half handful in some cases. But when I do, it is good to know the transaction price right away, which to me is another good reason to choose ETFs.
      Thanks!

    18. Jon says

      Hi JL, thanks for your superb books, they have been life-changing!

      What do you think of a VTI/VEA mix, adding international but sticking to developed ex-U.S. markets?

      • Brian Ak says

        Jon,
        That is the direction I’m moving to, 65% VTI and 35% VEA. It mirrors VT closely at a slightly lower fee and, in theory, less exposure to possible volatility in emerging markets. I’m not sure what percentage VT even holds in emerging markets? To completely mirror VT I would probably need to add in some VWO at whatever percentage VT holds in emerging markets.

        Certainly much simpler, or at least less complex, to hold VT or VTI/VXUS than VTI/VXUS/VWO. I am also curious to see how these markets (US, developed world and emerging markets) evolve over the next year or so and will adjust the balance as needed to stay close to that 65/35 split if necessary.

        Personally the biggest reason I chose VEA over VXUS, VT or VEU was to avoid exposure to the emerging markets and hedge the USD. In theory over the long run, it may be a marginal hedge and is certainly a bit more complex. We are possibly buying real estate in europe so I am concerned about a currency hedge against the USD, I am hoping VEA may help us with that since it has a much larger concentration in Europe than VT or VXUS. It also doesn’t hurt that the excellent VTI/VTSAX returns over the last decade plus have left our portfolio in a position to provide flexibility we never expected. Now that we are past the acquisition phase of our lifetime we can concentrate on either preservation and/or concentrating on flexibility with our next money movements.

        However I do have some reservations not being fully aligned with JL for the first time ever… but everyone has their own needs and individual concerns. That is part of the fun with forums like these, learning how everyone else tweaks the excellent advice and reasoning JL has taught us all.

        • Jon says

          Well said, Brian – my thoughts exactly!

          Having seen some emerging markets nationalize previously profitable private enterprises was a bit too much for me to be comfortable with emerging market exposure. VEA includes companies listed in ~25 countries, so it casts hopefully a broad enough net to provide meaningful diversification.

    19. Andrew says

      Hi JL,

      I found your superb book(s) about a year ago and have been on the Simple Path since. I’m in the UK and went with Vanguard’s FTSE All‑World ETF (VWRP) — when you previously said “If you want to add international, you won’t get any pushback from me.” That was great to hear!

      VWRP is ~90% developed, ~10% emerging, with the US around 60%, and it holds only large/mid caps. The OCF is 0.19% — higher than in the US due to stricter rules in Europe. I chose Vanguard for its reputation, principles, and everything I’ve since learned about Mr. Bogle.

      Now it’s time to set it and forget it. A huge thank you from the UK.

    20. Dean Martin says

      JL,

      Any tax complications by doing VT in a brokerage account? I want to dollar cost average and am concerned about fractional shares.

    21. Tech says

      Wow, I come by this site once it a while to check if there are updates. I just got sent the link to this post telling me JL has switched his advice of “Just VTSAX and chill” and he is now adding international!

      After reading the whole post I agree the change is not as earth shaking as all the hype is made out to be. However, it still makes me question my decision I had just made to stay the course. A number of other people I follow were saying they were lowering their US holdings. I figure that they were doing a knee jerk reaction to recent administration changes and remember the teaching in the stock series about long term trends and buy and hold forever. I almost made a move after the Davos 2026 speeches but stayed the course, but now with even the great JL making an adjustment, I am going back to revisit my latest decision “to stay the course”.

    22. Steven L says

      Whoa now…let’s not dance in and out of the US markets just yet. Sure, 2025 showed int’l funds up about 2x more than USA but so what…. VTIAX finished up 32.18% and the last time it was up was in 2017 at 27.55%. I just don’t see int’l markets doing consistently superior over time. China is about to decline as well as Japan.
      VTIAX: (i omitted the 2 negative years). VTSAX:
      2025 +32.18% 2025: +17.12%
      2024. +5.14% 2024: +23.74%
      2023 +15.52% 2023: +26.01%
      2021. +8.62%. 2021: +25.71%
      2020. +11.28%. 2020: +20.99%
      2019 +21.51%. 2019: +30.80%
      2017. +21.17. 2017: +21.17%

      I am not in the least worried about tariffs. I think mostly they are being used as a threat to have other countries lower or cancel the tariffs against the USA. Why should they tariff us but we don’t tariff them? For too long we were taken advantage of. I do not want to get into politics, but we do have a successful businessman trying new things in our economy when others have failed. The first term 2017-2020 as you can see we had the US total market fund up big. With the tax bill signed in July, 2025, I expect the US economy to go even higher. Nope, I am staying put in VTSAX and not going to fall for the bait just because int’l did almost twice as good as US in 2025. There were lots of uncertainties here last year. Not so much going forward. Businesses and investors now know what the tax rates are. My $.02

      • Chris says

        I am sorry Steven but your indiscriminate repeating of the government propaganda does not spark a lot of confidence in your logic. I will go ahead and do the opposite.

    23. MANUEL LOPEZ SOTO says

      HOLA JL, UN GRAN SALUDO DESDE MEXICO
      SOY UN FIEL SEGUIDOR DE TUS CONSEJOS
      HE COMPRADO AQUI EN MEXICO EL ETF VTI, EN SU VERSION VTI.MX
      ¿ESTOY EN LO CORRECTO?

      EL MEJOR LIBRO DE CLASE MUNDIAL PARA INVERTIR ES TU LIBRO “THE SIMPLE PATH TO WEALTH” TE FELICITO HOY Y SIEMPRE

      UN GRAN ABRAZO

    24. Simple Student says

      Hi JL,
      Huge follower here…… It’s funny, I was starting to consider re-allocating and adding some VXUS. I was feeling conflicted. I have always been 100% VTSAX. Holding anything else feels like farting in church….Your post provided much needed validation. Thank you!

      As we venture out into this scary new world what indicators and levels should we be mindful of? IE: DXY level?

    25. Bill W says

      I think the switch to VT from VTSAX is a result of TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome). Leave the guy alone! He didn’t become a multi billionaire by being stupid. His tariffs are a long time coming. Other countries can tariff us, but we can’t tariff them? Our country was previously run by stupid people. I am very proud of our 45-47 President. Let him do his job. VTSAX and still chill.

      • JL Collins says

        Considerably.

        His current net worth is ~6.5 Billion.

        He received his inheritance in stages over decades. Invested in the S&P 500 as he received it, it would be worth ~4.6 Trillion per Perplexity AI.

        His net worth would have been ~700X his current 6.5 Billion.

        As you’ll see, there are a lot of variables here and other AIs give far more conservative results.
        But in every case I have seen, he would be much richer had he invested in low cost broad based index funds as per The Simple Path.

        Here’s how Perplexity AI arrived at that figure:

        Q: If Donald Trump had invested his inheratences as they came to him in the S&P500, what would his net worth be today?
        A:
        Trump likely would be worth on the order of $4–5 trillion today if every dollar he received from his father over the years had simply gone into an S&P 500 index fund and been left alone, instead of going into real estate and business ventures. This is extremely approximate but gives the right ballpark.
        Key assumptions
        Investigative work by the New York Times concluded that Donald Trump received at least about $413 million (in today’s dollars) from his father over decades, through gifts, salary-like payments, and inheritance.
        Other reporting notes that Fred Trump’s estate at death in 1999 was roughly $250–300 million, split among the children, implying around $20–60 million for Donald Trump in that final transfer alone, with much more given earlier via various mechanisms.
        To turn that into an “invested in the S&P 500” scenario, you have to make a timeline guess: how much he effectively received in the 1950s, 60s, 70s, etc. The exact yearly amounts are not known, so any answer is necessarily a rough model rather than a precise calculation.
        Rough growth math
        Historically, the S&P 500 (with dividends reinvested) has returned around 7% per year after inflation over long periods.

        If you model Trump’s total family transfers of roughly $400+ million as a series of payments stretching from the early 1950s through the 2010s, and compound each yearly “chunk” at 7% real return up to the end of 2025, the combined future value comes out around $4.6 trillion in today’s dollars.

        That rough model spreads the total ∼
413

\sim 413


∼413 million into multiple milestones (for example, small amounts in the 1950s, larger flows in the 1970s–1990s, and the estate payout around 1999) and compounds each to 2025. Varying the timeline or the assumed return (say 6–8% real instead of exactly 7%) moves the result but keeps it in the multi‑trillion‑dollar range.

        How this compares to his actual net worth
        Independent estimates put Donald Trump’s current net worth in early 2026 around $6.5–7.3 billion, depending on the source and methodology.
        Under the “all in the S&P 500 and never touched it” thought experiment, his wealth would therefore be roughly 600–700 times larger than it is today, illustrating how powerful long-term stock market compounding can be when starting with large sums in the mid‑20th century.
        Because the exact timing and amounts of Trump’s receipts from his father are not fully documented, any numerical answer is only a ballpark estimate, but using standard market-return assumptions and the NYT inheritance total, a figure in the low single-digit trillions is a reasonable order-of-magnitude result.

        • Steve, Esq. says

          Those are extraordinary numbers indeed. The only flaw that I see is the information from the NY Times. They hate DJT and would only report that which places him in a negative light. Still, if he did inherit $400 million and he’s worth $5-6 billion today, that’s a heck of a jump. A billion is a thousand million. If I gave most people $1,000 and told them to turn it into $5-6 million, that would be the same thing. Only someone with great business savvy could do that. But, that said, why go through all the headaches of real estate deals when you could just put the lump sum in the S&P, DRIP, and chill?

    26. Ellen Louise Guardiano says

      Interestingly, President Trump’s Truth Accounts, for children born 2025+, the investments are in INDEX FUNDS! Agree with Mr. Collins’ assessment (Perplexity A.I.! re President Trump’s net worth! Mr. Collins’ is a genius! Would that the entire World invest in ‘The Simple Path To Wealth’! Freedom in spades! No chasing the next hot thing! IT ‘AIN’T’ out there! But to shout it from the rooftops – LOL! IDK why my long post, Addendum added M 02/23/26 just a short while ago, to my Amazon Review, copied/pasted 2X here, is not visible! Preaching to the choir! But, should it assist even 1 person, it’ll have been worth it! Please post, Mr. Collins! Thank you, everyone; fascinating discussion!

    27. Ellen Louise Guardiano says

      M 02/23/26 Addendum to my original Amazon Review: Discovered Mr. Collins in 2011. Devoured all his offerings! Then deviated to the fascinating world of deception! Yes, many alternative ‘Plans,’ some worthy, most NOT! Weaved a weave of total and complete destruction, self-sabotaging all until this moment! Chose to engage in a dangerous day-trading addiction, resulting in a -$250,000 loss. Invested in many stocks, ETFs, managed mutual funds, index funds, including those of Fidelity, my Brokerage. Then engaged in a final attempt to recoup my losses, having taken the -$3,000 allowable loss annually for many years. I recouped, again, through trading, most of the loss. In doing so, I traded my way to a massive gain, only to jump from the lowest tax bracket up 2 or 3 higher! Now I’m on the hook for massive tax bills, 2025 and 2026. Am climbing my way out of the hole/abyss/pit I dug for myself by NOT sticking to Mr. Collins’ “The Simple Path to Wealth.” The good news is – re-reading his books – knowing myself – am no longer a jellyfish/amoeba floating around directionless! Settled on The Gold Standard – VTINX. No temptations to ‘check,’ investing dividends/capital gains into my MMMF; investing my MMMF back into itself – replenishing the coffers. Best for me, as an almost-67-year-old self-supporting female. Following the next 2 years of climbing out of the hole I dug for myself, I’ll be free at last of the chains that I’ve CHOSEN to bind me! Please, please, if anyone can relate to my story, do not succumb! All these years later, Mr. Collins’ books/Broadcasts resonate louder and clearer than ever! Stick with “The Simple Path To Wealth”! Do not chase the next ‘new, shiny object’! IT AIN’T OUT THERE, FOLKS!

    28. Ellen Louise Guardiano says

      Perplexity A.I. is the chosen A.I. utilized at truthsocial.com!
      There’s a devoted link to it there
      where I maintain my account.
      One may ask questions; sources are provided;
      comprehensive!

      Interesting!

    29. Ben Messinese says

      JL,

      If you already own VTSAX as I do 100%, is adding VTIAX a cleaner way to get international exposure than adding VT, given that VT reintroduces substantial U.S. overlap and reduces control over the actual international allocation?

      • Investing Matt says

        I am also wondering the same thing. Or for those of us with the ETF, and VTI, should we consider just adding VXUS to over time more closely mimic VT? And avoid too much US overlap

    30. WorkerBee says

      Hi JL Collins,

      I now have VT in my Traditional IRA. I have mostly VTI in my taxable and adding some VXUS here and there.

      My question is if my Roth 401k is where I contribute most actively, if the expense ratios are .23 for US (S&P500) and .60 for ex-US (MSCI ACWI), is it better to pay the higher ER in this account if I believe international will continue to perform well? Or should I look at my portfolio as one whole, and only invest in S&P500 for the lowest ER, even as I max out that account annually?

      Thank you! Big fan.

    31. Lisa says

      Disregard my previous comment – I see that VTPSX is all international. Definitely don’t want to switch to that.
      I will look changing from VTSAX to VTWAX using my 457B self directed brokerage account option.

    32. Jake says

      You originally recommended VT, and I was curious about your thoughts on it compared to doing VTI + VXUS.

      I know VT holds the entire global market in one fund, while splitting it into VTI and VXUS gives a bit more control over the U.S. vs international allocation, slightly lower fees, and VXUS could also allow you to claim the foreign tax credit in a taxable account.

      Do you generally prefer sticking with VT for the simplicity, or do you think there’s a good case for holding VTI + VXUS instead?

    33. Logan says

      Hi JL,

      Thank you so much for all your work! It really has been life changing! I have become very serious about financial independence the last several years and your work has been a tremendous help. Thank you!

      I have a question about international. The majority of my portfolio is in a 401k and the only international option available is FSPSX – which is developed nations only, so no China etc.

      I can buy VT/VXUS in my IRA and HSA.

      But to achieve 15% of my total portfolio in international, I would have to change my HSA and IRA from 90% VOO and 10% bonds to 100% VT.

      What would you recommend? Should I just add 15% FSPSX in my 401k and call it a day? Or add some FSPSX and some VT where I can?

    34. Patricia says

      Thank you, JL! I had been wondering what your thoughts and movements might have been recently. If it wasn’t for having read your book- I would be in a panic and probably have traded and pulled my money from the market in the past few weeks. All I’m seeing is red. I just started my investment last year and opted for fidelity. Following with your advice I am invested in the following: FXAIX (40%), FSKAX (50%) and FZILX (10%). I direct deposit a lump sum each paycheck and then it’s split into these indexes. Give your adjustments and updates- do you see this is adequate based on the simple path or where do you see I should pivot? I am 25 years from retirement. Thank you for all you are doing in the world- coming from a daughter whose father passed away and haven’t had a guiding force. I was so grateful to find you

    35. Jeremy says

      As a US citizen but frequent international resident, I’ve held about 20% non-US funds for as long as I can remember.

      The US has long held some unique advantages that make international investing non-mandatory even though modern portfolio theory says equal weighting is the right choice.

      But remove the US immigration and reserve currency benefits, add a significant national debt and deficit head wind for the benefit of the few, and taint both the rule of law and role as consistent global steward… then it is hard to conclude that 4% of the global population should be responsible for 25% of global GDP for all time.

    36. Tahm says

      Dear J.L. Collins,

      I am an individual investor from Thailand. I’ve been studying investing for a year, and after a lot of trial and error—including blowing at least a few accounts—I finally discovered your book. It has made a huge impression on me. Thank you so much.

      I have a question regarding my situation in Thailand. Should I invest in VT directly through a dollar-based broker, or stick with Thai mutual funds that track VT in Thai Baht? Thai funds have management fees around 1% or more, whereas VT is much cheaper, though direct investing carries exchange rate risks and conversion costs.

      What would you recommend for someone in my position? Thank you in advance. I wish you and your family lasting happiness and great health!

    37. Steven says

      I cannot comprehend how anyone would divest out of 100% U.S. stocks to get into Int’l funds at this time, or a mix of both. Without getting political, we have a president whose mantra is “America First” and even though tariffs or the threat thereof would cause uneasiness, the policies of this administration are to grow our economy. As we have recently seen with NATO countries, most of these are market socialist countries have diverted money from defense spending into social programs that will not grow their economies – Welfare States. VT has 65% US 35% Intl. Not a good choice VTSAX & Chill for me.

    38. Thomas Clark says

      The timing of this update makes complete sense — 2025 was a stark illustration of JL’s point. US stocks returned 16.4% while the rest of the world averaged far higher, and the dollar dropped ~10% against major currencies. For US investors who only hold VTI, that gap was invisible because they were comparing to nothing. But it’s a real economic story.

      There’s a retirement planning dimension to this shift that’s worth spelling out: for anyone in the pre-retirement window (say, 55–70), the currency and geographic concentration concern intersects directly with sequence-of-returns risk. If the US market underperforms for the first decade of your retirement — whether due to tariffs, dollar debasement, or just mean-reversion after decades of outperformance — drawing down a 100% US equity portfolio during that trough creates permanent damage to the portfolio’s remaining life.

      International diversification (adding VXUS) is one solution, but there’s a complementary tool that many pre-retirees underweight: Social Security timing. Delaying SS from 62 to 70 adds 8% per year in guaranteed, inflation-adjusted income — essentially a government-backed annuity that doesn’t depend on US equity markets at all. The 8-year bridge from 62 to 70 (funded by portfolio withdrawals) is, in effect, “buying” a guaranteed income floor that remains intact regardless of whether VTI or VXUS leads the next decade.

      The arithmetic improves dramatically when you factor in JL’s concern: if you believe US equities might underperform for a sustained period, preserving your portfolio during that stretch matters enormously. A higher SS floor at 70 means you’re drawing less from the portfolio during bad years, which is exactly where sequence-of-returns damage concentrates.

      Curious how your thinking about SS timing has evolved alongside the international question — the two decisions interact in ways that aren’t obvious. More here: https://thomasclarkadvisor.com/social-security-solvency-2025/

      • Norma says

        By the way I’m 36 and just opened a Roth IRA. I just read your book. I was thinking VOO then I read your book so I changed to VTI and now I’m stuck between VOO and VT. I only have about 25 years to earn interest

        • Free says

          VOO has been earning slight more due to our K economy post Covid lockdowns. VTI, VOO, and VT are all good. However in the last 3 months (Iran War), Feb 12 – May 12, here are the numbers: VT 6.41%, VTI 8.22%, VOO 8.46%. VOO has beaten VT by 2 full points all during this era where the headlines blame Pres. Trump for all their personal problems.

    39. Jimmy says

      I’m curious. VTI and Chill makes more sense. This is why: (Despite crazy politics.)

      If I was an innovator in China, and developed a revolutionary processor, I would be on the first flight out of there, even to Singapore or another nation, then fly to the USA. I’d have my lawyers pitch my processor to several different companies with the inclusion of a golden visa.

      Warren Buffet said “Never bet against America”. It is not because we are the smartest always. America gets rich because the smart ones from everywhere else come here. Jensen Huang. Sergey Brin. Elon Musk. Andy Grove. Morris Chang. Albert Einstein. Vladimir Zworykin. Wernher von Braun.

      In the USA a rich billionaire has asset protection, a sense of freedom, land ownership opportunities, ability to create trusts, legacy trusts, irrevocable trusts…. They can live anywhere from a penthouse in NYC to a 1000 acre horse ranch in Texas and/or Montana and raise show horses. From Boston to the Hills of California…

      It’s because we have freedom. It’s attractive to live here.

      While I don’t think a fund like VT is bad, or VXUS, I can’t help but to consider if it would be a better life to be a billionaire in the following: China or the USA? Korea or the USA? Vietnam or the USA? Japan or the USA?

      I would think it would be nearly insane to not to want to come here and bring your talent to the USA.

      Just like NVIDIA did.

      I don’t think the other is “unwise” or “dumb”. I just think the scare tactics of the media here, the seeming polarization, and all the crazy ridiculous politics and spin can affect our brains a lot and cause fear.

      We should not allow that to let us forget how great of a nation we live in, and why FREEDOM is very attractive to smart intelligent innovators.

    40. Rebecca says

      Really appreciate all of your insights and knowledge sharing. I will have a teacher pension (will be quite respectable thankfully in part to having a doctoral degree and will retire eventually with 80% of my salary in 22 years) and a Roth IRA for my retirement plans (Other funds starting 1/2027 will allow me to start an individual taxable brokerage account). I currently have my Roth IRA with Vanguard contributing to the Target Retirement 2045 fund (VTIVX) but am considering shifting my funds into the VT. Any thoughts on this consideration?

    41. Jacquelyn Aufderheide says

      JL, What do you think about Vanguard U.S. High-Yield Corporate Bond Index (VCHY)?

    42. Duy Nguyen says

      Hello JL, I’m a big fan of you and your work (I’ve read 2 of your books in 1 week lol). I love the education and the simple formula from your book. But I just keep having this question in my mind and I genuinely need your opinion on this: I live in Vietnam and VTSAX, VTI and VT are nearly impossible for me to buy. Even if it’s possible, the money exchange rate, higher fees than US citizens, no dividends, etc… make it all hardly worth it. International funds also look undesireable because of currency exchange rate too. So my question is: does your formula apply to index funds / ETFs surrounding the Vietnam economy only? International A friend of mine said that the global economic cycle is also the same for every country so I wonder if the fomula is still applicable outside the US. For example, should I apply everything I have learned from your book and invest in… let’s say an index ETF that comprises the 30 biggest companies in Vietnam (VFMVN30) long term (10+ years)? VFMVN30 has an average profit rate of 13.67% and 0.65–0.8% expense ratio annually.

      Thank you in advance! I wish you good health sir!

      • JL Collins says

        Hi Duy,

        Thank you for the kind words and good wishes!

        For the 15 years since I started my blog, my advice to those in the US is they need only invest in the US but my readers anywhere else in the world should look to a world fund.

        One reason has been that only the US is a large enough portion of the world’s stock market to provide the needed diversification across various market sectors. Just as companies rise and fall in favor, so too do market sectors.

        Right now tech dominates, and has done so for quite some time. But even here, the type of tech has morphed. It is much more AI centric these days.

        This is the beauty of the broad-based low cost index funds we choose: As the world and market change and shift, so does our fund.

        Most smaller countries tend to have markets more narrowly focused on just a sector or two. Canada, for instance, is heavy in natural resources so when those do well (or poorly) so do the Canada based index funds.

        I have no idea where the Vietnam market is focused but, given you say it has posted annual average returns of 13%+ over the last ten years, my guess is it is somewhat tech heavy. Whether the strong performance of this focus will continue over the next ten years is anybody’s guess.

        The decision is, of course, yours. But you should understand if you invest only in VFMVN30 you expecting not just that the market overall will do well, but that this particular slice of it will.

        Hope this helps!

        If you’d like to see this and other questions answered, you’ll find them in my free newsletter:

        https://thesimplepathtowealth.kit.com

    43. Ally says

      Hi JL, I have a question after listening to your podcasts about the international switch.

      You mentioned that your overall portfolio allocation is still about 85% US/15% Intl after the switch. I’m curious if your daughter has a similar allocation after her switch, or if she is closer to market cap weight 60% US/40% Intl.

      I’m trying to decide if I want an international “tilt” now or to be market cap weight, and switching my tax-advantaged accounts like you did would put me much more toward market cap weight than yours is.

      Thanks!

      • JL Collins says

        Hi Ally…

        You got me curious, so I just took a look.

        Of her stock holdings, my daughter has ~85% i VTI and ~15% in VT. Since VT holds ~60% in the US, this means that she has ~6% in international stocks. Mine is much the same.

        Like I’ve been saying, this is a small shift.

        As I also have been saying, this is not something to obsess over. Both VTI & VT will serve you well over the decades. So will VOO for that matter.

        Focus more on your savings rate and making sure you don’t panic and sell when the next market storm happens. That is what determines whether the market makes you wealth or leaves you bleeding by the side of the road.

        This Q&A will also appear here: https://thesimplepathtowealth.kit.com

    44. Kyle says

      Thanks JL!

      Is holding VT superior to VTI & VXUS because it automatically weights U.S. and international correctly versus the individual investor choosing to hold 10, 15, or 25% international?

    45. ZV says

      So as I understand it, you recommend switching from VTSAX to VT and from VBTLX to VTI in IRA accounts. Could you please confirm this?

      Thank you
      ZV

    46. Tom says

      Hi all, relatively new to the blog but I find all the information provided incredibly useful.

      My wife and I are US Citizens living as working residents in Germany (for at least a few more years), and we’re running into some hurdles trying to get our investment portfolio started. Without being an expert, I’m reading about various tax implications, both on the US side and the German side, to holding US-domiciled ETFs and EU-domiciled ETFs. Also finding it hard to access US-based ETFs (from what I understand not available to EU residents due to regulation).

      Does anyone have experience with a similar situation? And can make recommendations of how to go about implementing a strategy? Brokerages or platforms to use? etc?

      Any help or point in the right direction would be greatly appreciated!
      Thanks,
      Tom

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