Case Study #14: One Woman’s Journey to Financial Independence

Cinque Terre

Cinque Terre

“Impossible!”

That’s one of the less ugly responses you can expect from the typical American if you are bold enough to suggest that financial independence (FI) and early retirement is a realistic goal.

Push a little further and you might get a grudging: “Well maybe. If you lead a perfectly smooth life and always earn a high salary. But not in my messy real world of fits and starts.”

I’ve been writing this blog for over 12 years now and I’ve heard from numerous people who’ve achieved FI or who are well on their way. Not a single time that I can recall were their paths smooth.

We all live in the messy real world of fits and starts.

Today’s Case Study is unique in that a reader of this blog wrote not to seek guidance, but rather to share her story.

At the end of her first note she apologized for writing a “tome.” Not a tome, I replied, but a post if you are willing. Fortunately, she was.

It is a tale of low-paying jobs, low saving rates, divorce, building a career, wandering in the investment wilderness, high savings rates, charity, retiring right into the teeth of the 2008 collapse, a money draining (if beautiful) house, reaching FI and a life of traveling light to be followed with a life of giving back.

I find it a compelling, inspiring story and one that gives me way too much credit. Maybe you will too.

Nice France

Nice, France

Dear Mr. Collins,

I’m writing to thank you for your educational blog, especially your Stock Series. But really, almost every post you’ve written has been helpful to me.

I found your blog (through MrMoneyMustache, I think) a couple of years ago, and it has guided me in some important financial decisions, and ultimately life decisions. Please let me bore you with the details.
By the time I found you, I was no slouch in the savings & living-below-my-means department. And all of my taxable investments were already in Vanguard’s stock index funds.I should really start from the beginning…
In college I came across a newspaper article about the power of compounding, so when I got my first real job in 1989, I maxed out on 401(k) and chose stock mutual funds that did well in prior 10 years. I had no other savings because…
  • I was making an entry-level job salary of around $25,000
  • I was married to someone who earned less than I
  • My husband’s financial motto was, “If you don’t owe, you don’t own.”

He was no dead-beat, but he was perfectly comfortable living from paycheck to paycheck.

I was in that low-paying job for 10 years, and in that time, my husband and I bought a modest house by borrowing the 20% down payment from my 401(k). Also, my husband started his own business and earned even less money.

In short, we didn’t save beyond my 401(k).

Then in 2000, I got another job (with a 50% increase in salary—going from $40,000 to $65,000) and divorced my husband. He got the house, I got the 401(k) worth under $100,000 with the loan already paid off.

Florence Italy

Florence

A friend let me stay in a spare bedroom for free until I could find an apartment to rent. But rentals were hot in 2000 in the Washington, DC area and became too expensive for my budget, so I bought a tiny house whose mortgage I could afford.

Then my salary started climbing. In 2001, I found another job paying $88,000. In 2002, I jumped to another firm at $120,000. In 2004, another company recruited me at $140,000. In 2007, I went to another firm that paid $190,000.

Even though my salary kept rising, I continued to live modestly—not buying a car, electronic goods, fancy furnishings, or lots of clothes.

From 2002–2006, I tracked my spending meticulously, relishing in lowering my expenses as much as possible. In addition to maxing out my 401(k), I saved 50–60% of my take-home pay and plowed the savings into Vanguard stock index funds, divided among large cap, medium cap, small cap, emerging cap, international, REIT. And in 2005 when the real estate market got hot, I sold the house for a profit, plowed $170,000 into Vanguard funds, and moved into a cheap apartment.

By October 2007, my net worth reached $1,000,000—70% of it in taxable accounts. My annual expenses were under $35,000, so I quit my job and retired. But by the end of 2008, my net worth had plunged to $600,000 because of the market crash. However, I did not pull out one single cent from Vanguard or change anything in my IRAs. (emphasis mine, jlcollins)

In May 2009, a former boss recruited me back to full-time employment for $135,000 a year. I was still living in a modest apartment and maxing out my 401(k), but this time was saving only 40–50% take-home pay. Worse, I didn’t add the savings to my Vanguard taxable funds, but kept it in a high-interest checking account.

I started taking my eye off the ball.

One morning I woke up and decided to buy a waterfront house on the Chesapeake. Two months later in July 2012, I bought a $480,000 house with 25% down and a 10-year mortgage at 2.75%.

I went from paying $1,250 for a one-bedroom apartment with $25/month electric bill to paying $3,185 for a 3-bedroom, 2.5 bath house with $150/month electric bill—not to mention home & flood insurance, property tax, and quadrupled furnishings. But, “It’s my dream to live on the water!”

My savings rate plummeted.

In March 2013, I met your blog, learned that a house is a terrible investment (oops) and which Vanguard index funds to own. I slowly sold REIT, international, and emerging funds—the ones that didn’t make money; I didn’t sell the other funds because of tax implications. My net worth then was $1,200,000, thanks to the bull market.

I wasn’t psychologically ready to sell the house yet, but your blog put me back on track, so I aimed to retire in 2020 with $2,000,000 (or $1,500,000 if the market didn’t cooperate). The market cooperated big time. By Thanksgiving 2014, my net worth shot up to $1,575,000. I decided that it was enough to retire earlier than planned.

By Christmas 2014, I started getting the house ready for the spring 2015 market. In June 2015, I sold the house for $515,000 and quit my job. After paying off the loan and expenses, I had $200,000 in cash—40% went into VTI, and 60% went into Vanguard’s Prime Money Market Fund, waiting for a crash and buy more VTI. I’m still waiting!

With the house sale, I sold or donated all of my furniture and other furnishings, most of my clothes, and the 16-year-old car. The remaining things—1 small box of important papers/documents, 1 small box of miscellaneous items, and 4 office-size boxes of clothes/shoes/boots—are stored in my mother’s spare bedroom closet.

In mid-July 2015, with 1 carry-on suitcase and 1 under-the-seat suitcase, I boarded the plane and headed for Europe for 3 months, booking VRBO apartments as I went.

So far it’s been 2 weeks in Paris, 1 week in Nice, 1 week in Venice, 9 days in Florence, 1 week in Cinque Terre, 9 days in Rome, and now 1 week in the Amalfi Coast.

Venice

Venice. As good a place as any to ditch stuff.

In Venice I ditched the carry-on suitcase and one useless skirt, and packed everything in the under-the-seat suitcase. In Florence I shipped 1/2 of my clothes back to Mom.

In Cinque Terre, I shipped more clothes back to Mom.

Later when I get back to Mom in Texas at Thanksgiving, I will transfer my travel belongings into a nylon 25-liter backpack (size of a day pack) and continue with my world travels—combining expensive and cheap locations to keep my yearly expenses under $40,000 (2.5% withdrawal rate).

Once briefly my net worth shot up to $1,700,000 but these days it hovers around $1,570,000. Nothing the market does bothers me. I use your withdrawal advice as a guide (thank you again!), and I try to understand Go Curry Cracker’s posts regarding tax strategies.

Thank you. You’ve given me knowledge, courage, and confidence. I have referred many people to your site.

When I quit work, some of my colleagues asked how I retired early, so I gave them a dumbed down PowerPoint presentation, which included links to your site’s various pages.

I tried to send them links only, but the twenty and thirty-somethings said they didn’t want to read—they just wanted to be shown. And since marketing was my profession, I gave them slides with lots of pictures and few words.

One woman my age said it was too late for her to start, because she and her husband were used to living from paycheck to paycheck. I told her to impart this information to her children instead.

As a single woman, I used to fear being homeless and destitute with no safety net. Today, with my F.U. money, I feel empowered and prefer to be homeless!

A year ago I had a waterfront house with enviable views, but it came with high costs—upkeep labor, maintenance expenses, taxes, insurances, utilities, etc.

Today, I’m enjoying a water view of the…

amalfi_coast

 …Amalfi Coast from the terrace of a house I’m renting.

It’s Sunday, and I’m not worrying about raking the leaves, mowing the lawn, or preparing for the work week ahead.

Hmmm, I guess I’ve written you a tome. I just want you to really know how much of a difference you’ve made, at least to one person’s life.

I’ve read every single post you’ve written, and some of them many times over. I’m always sad when you pause writing for the summer! Now that I have more time, I’ll try to participate in the comments.

Again, thank you!

Warmest regards,

MP

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In my reply I observed that she seemed to have done just fine before ever finding jlcollinsnh and said, “I love your story, the victories, challenges, setbacks and recoveries. With your permission, I’d like to make this into a case study post.”

After a few days, I received her reply:

Hi Mr. Collins,

I was without wifi for a couple of days. Finally it’s back and I can respond to you.

Thanks for your words of confidence. Actually, your blog did make a difference to me—it guided my decision to sell the house, even though I had just bought it, giving me “permission” (for lack of a better word) to cut my losses and put the equity to better use (buy stocks).

Most important, your words gave me confidence (and thus, peace of mind) about some of my past financial decisions (buying only index funds, using Vanguard, eschewing financial advisers—one guy I interviewed said his “fee” was 1% of his client’s investment portfolio!)

I think probably the only place we differed was that I never held any bond funds—it’s either stock funds or cash, and I intend to keep it that way even in retirement. Anyway, when it comes to financial matters, peace of mind is gold to me.

How I conducted my financial affairs was a culmination of gathered information from many sources over many years. I didn’t really know if I was doing it “right”…until you came along and wrote your stock series—now my financial bible, and I felt that your posts blessed my financial decisions up to then, except for the house buying mistake.

By the way, my favorite line of all your writings is this: “Avoid fiscally irresponsible people. Never marry one or otherwise give him access to your money.” I put that as bonus advice (and credited it to your blog) in my PowerPoint slides I give to others.

My ex-husband and I are still very good friends, and he now says that he’d never be able to afford the house he’s in now if it wasn’t for my income when we were married, and that if I had stayed married to him, I would not be as well off as I am now.

If you think my story could be of use to others, especially women, I would be happy to share it.

The idea of making my story public caused me to double-check my figures and years listed. I know how critical people can be.

Speaking of critical people…

Because I was writing for your eyes only, I didn’t think to mention that over the years, even when I was being super frugal, I’d always given thousands of dollars away every year—one year as high as $30,000—to family, friends, and charity. I mention it now, because once the story goes public, some people will say they don’t want to be frugal if it means they have to be a Scrooge. My situation is proof that one can be generous to others and still do well for oneself.

However, I don’t want to list the money I gave away, because family and friends who received money will be wondering who got more than they did—people are funny that way. I don’t mind bragging privately to you, though, that sharing is my top value and I try to live up to it by being generous.

As for my current plans, after 2 years of travel, I intend to return to working on projects involving orphans and senior citizens in a developing country where I had done vacation-volunteer work before.

I mention this last part because a couple of friends were worried that I’d be idle and eating bon-bons for the rest of my life. I guess some people think that retiring young means a life of drifting uselessness.

Respectfully yours,

MP

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Well, MP… While I can imagine a lot, I can’t imagine you in a life of drifting uselessness. I am honored my site has helped. But it sure sounds like you’d have been just fine without it.

Ordinarily, I follow these case studies, with my advice. But in your case, no advice is needed. I’ll just say, “Well played!” and hope that somewhere out there our paths cross and we can linger over a coffee in some picturesque plaza.

BTW, last I heard, she’s here:

Barcelona

Barcelona

Addendum 1:

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Addendum 2:

In replying to a comment below, MP had the occasion to share her mother’s equally amazing tale…

My mother came to the USA at 30, widowed, with 3 young children 8 years old & under, an elderly mother, $250 ($50 per head given to us by the United States government), and no other assets.

She started work with minimum wage as a nurse’s aid. Our family was on welfare for 3 years, after which she was too proud to continue applying for federal assistance. I still remember the moment she made that decision.

We lived in the cheapest neighborhood in the city. My grandmother had a garden, producing so much vegetables we had to give some away. We never ate out or bought new clothes.

After 7 years of renting, my mother bought us a tiny 2-bedroom house for $5,000 (yes, five thousand dollars) in cash in the fall of 1982. That property had another house—a standalone studio apartment—that she rented out for something like $100 a month.

By then she worked in housekeeping at a nuclear plant. Even though she didn’t have even a first-grade education, her children went to college on scholarships/grants/loans. When the last of them went to university in a big city, she sold the property/houses (for $5,000) and moved to the big city too.

She rented a studio apartment and found work in housekeeping at a large department store, and then for the state government.

Eventually she bought (on mortgage) a property with 2 very modest houses—larger one to live in, smaller one to rent out. She got the landlord bug and bought a nicer house in the next town to rent out. Eventually, she sold the property with the 2 houses in the big city, moved into the nicer house in the next town and paid it off before she retired at 67 in 2012.

According to her Social Security reports, the most she’s ever earned in one year was $22,000+, and in the few lean years when she was laid off, she earned almost nothing.

And yet, she has accumulated hundreds of thousands of dollars (she won’t tell me exactly how much!), which she puts in a regular savings account. (She doesn’t believe in stocks, saying she doesn’t want to put money into what she doesn’t understand.)

Many times she has given loans to her 3 children—to help with mortgage down payments, etc., once as high as $120,000.

In retirement, she receives monthly Social Security checks and pensions, totaling more than her monthly wages before she retired. (Funny story—one of those pensions had to hunt her down to get her address because she had moved away; she didn’t know she had a pension!)

Even now, because she doesn’t spend all of her income (probably not even half of it), she continues to save toward her nest egg.

So, if a young widow—with 3 young children and an elderly mother, no education, limited English in a foreign country, working as a housekeeper, earning minimum wage (or less in lean years), doesn’t touch stocks or bonds—can achieve FI in 37 years, so can the average and below average American in a shorter time if they desire.

As the saying goes, FI is not so much about what you earn, but about what you save. And my mother is the perfect poster child for this saying.

Important Resources:

  • Vanguard.com (unfortunately Vanguard doesn’t have an affiliate program)
  • Empower* is a free tool to manage and evaluate your investments. With great visuals you can track your net worth, asset allocation, and portfolio performance, including costs. At a glance you’ll see what’s working and what you might want to change. Here’s my full review.
  • Betterment* is my recommendation for hands-off investors who prefer a DIFM (Do It For Me) approach. It is also a great tool for reaching short-term savings goals. Here is my Betterment Review
  • Tuft & Needle helps me sleep at night. Unfortunately they are no longer an affiliate, but still a very cool company and a great product.

*These are affiliate links and should you chose to do business with them, this blog will earn a small commission.

Unrelated, but here’s what I’m currently or have just finished reading and enjoyed:

Turbo Capitalism

If you are interested in income inequality, this poorly titled (should have been Unfettered Capitalism – more accurate and more descriptive) is a great discussion of the pros and cons of our current system. Luttwak clearly has his own biases, but is remarkable evenhanded in presenting both sides.

Written in the late 1990s, it is a bit of a time capsule and fun to see how the past 20 years have actually unfolded.

Leave it to Psmith

“Crime not objected to.”

One of my favorite characters from a favorite author. If you like it, here are a few more:

Jack Reacher roams around the country carrying only a folding toothbrush. When his clothes get dirty he buys new ones. Oh, and he kills lots of bad guys. “Make Me” is the most recent in the series, but not the best. That might be this one:


First line: “People do not give it credence that a fourteen-year-old girl could leave home and go off in the wintertime to avenge her father’s blood but it did not seem so strange then, although I will say it did not happen every day.”

Last Line: “This ends my true account of how I avenged Frank Ross’s blood over in the Choctaw Nation when snow was on the ground.”

How we came to be what we are, behave the way we do and believe what we believe. My favorite in this group.

Where people who live to be 100+ live, how they live and what they eat.

Bad monkeys are Sapiens that need killing, and Jane is on the job. If you are already paranoid, you might want to skip chapter: white room (iv)

Why the future might be incredibly good. Unless the grey goo gets us.

This might be the most enlightening and entertaining take on American history I’ve yet to read.

And here are some of my all time favorites:

The book that has most influenced how I live my life.

Deceptively simple, but really all you need to know about becoming wealthy.

Very possibly my all-time favorite novel.

“The Fall of Edward Barnard” is very possibly my all-time favorite short story.

Perfect for the readers of this blog.

“Bartleby the Scrivener” is very possibly my all-time favorite novella. Don’t be put off if you struggled with Melville’s “Moby Dick.” This is a much better and easier read. Plus it will teach you the most important phrase in the English language:

“I would prefer not to.”

*If you click on the books you’ll go to Amazon, an affiliate partner. Should you choose buy them, or anything else while you there, this blog will receive a small commission. This doesn’t affect what you pay.

 

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Important Resources

  • Talent Stacker is a resource that I learned about through my work with Jonathan and Brad at ChooseFI, and first heard about Salesforce as a career option in an episode where they featured Bradley Rice on the Podcast. In that episode, Bradley shared how he reached FI quickly thanks to his huge paychecks and discipline in keeping his expenses low. Jonathan teamed up with Bradley to build Talent Stacker, and they have helped more than 1,000 students from all walks of life complete the program and land jobs like clockwork, earning double or even triple their old salaries using a Salesforce certification to break into a no-code tech career.
  • Credit Cards are like chain saws. Incredibly useful. Incredibly dangerous. Resolve to pay in full each month and never carry a balance. Do that and they can be great tools. Here are some of the very best for travel hacking, cash back and small business rewards.
  • Empower is a free tool to manage and evaluate your investments. With great visuals you can track your net worth, asset allocation, and portfolio performance, including costs. At a glance you'll see what's working and what you might want to change. Here's my full review.
  • Betterment is my recommendation for hands-off investors who prefer a DIFM (Do It For Me) approach. It is also a great tool for reaching short-term savings goals. Here is my Betterment Review
  • NewRetirement offers cool tools to help guide you in answering the question: Do I have enough money to retire? And getting started is free. Sign up and you will be offered two paths into their retirement planner. I was also on their podcast and you can check that out here:Video version, Podcast version.
  • Tuft & Needle (T&N) helps me sleep at night. They are a very cool company with a great product. Here’s my review of what we are currently sleeping on: Our Walnut Frame and Mint Mattress.
  • Vanguard.com

Comments

  1. RobDiesel says

    My god, MP is my clone (or rather, the mindset – I have a bit to go to in reality).

    I agree that not having an equally frugal partner can “drag you down”. I put that in quotes, because it’s not so much dragging down as it just makes it easier to spend more for no real reason.
    Dinners, date nights, birthday gifts and other things like that.

    Anyway, MP, if you’re reading this – thanks for being an example and being open enough to let us read about it. It’s reaffirmation of all of our goals here, and proof that it can be done.

    I’m also fairly certain that health issues probably go away or improve in early retirement. Not stressing over alarms or “must-do” items will probably have a very beneficial effect on one’s health.
    The one benefit of not being particularly fond of my job is that I am saving more to retire out of it than I would if I liked it. Motivation, I like to call it. 😀

    • MP says

      RobDiesel–Yes, I’m reading this. Thanks for your comments. Stress affects more than your physical & mental health, I think. I noticed that when I was severely stressed at work, negative things not related to work came into my life–someone rear-ended my car (a first in 30 years of driving), two men robbed me with a gun in daylight in a ritzy business-residential neighborhood–as though the extreme stress attracted unusual, negative events. Alarms=low stress. “Interesting” bosses=can be very high stress. Get away from high stress. Anyway, I’m rooting for your eventual FI!

  2. Paul says

    Great post! Any idea what type of work she does? I’m curious as to what line of work offers those types of pay increases so quickly. Maybe something in technology?

    • MP says

      Hi Paul–I’m MP. My career was in business development / marketing. Started as Assistant, ended as Director. I was very lucky to be in the right places (law firms) at the right times (from late 1990’s on).

  3. Ann says

    Congratulations MP! I hope you are having a wonderful time! Well done. I just spent 5 months traveling with my family and it was so nice to leave all the responsibilties of home and work behind. I see the appeal of being homeless so clearly now especially as we resume all of those responsibilities now. When we are done raising our kids (if we can make it that long) we plan to quit this life, our jobs and house and stop being grown ups. In the mean time we are cutting our hours to pace ourselves and have more fun along the way. All made possible the liberating power of having saved our own personal endowment. Thanks MP and Jim for setting such a good example and guiding the way.

    • MP says

      Hi Ann–Thank you! Congratulations to you for stopping to smell the flowers along your path to FI and that you did it with your entire family. And lucky you to have a simpatico partner in that path!

  4. Trisha says

    Well done.

    Jim, in the past few months of traveling (having listened to you and having realized I no longer need to “accumulate wealth” in order to wander the world) I have passed on your blog and your advice to people I met in the Caribbean, in France, in Croatia, and to a Canadian in Greece.

    And of course to my kids.

    One thing I realized after reaching FI, is that:
    Now that I’m no longer working, I spend far less – even traveling the world and drinking decent wines! I’m amazed. I didn’t realize how much I was spending in order to stay in business. No longer working, my needs are few, my clothes are comfortably worn, and we make our own breakfasts in the houses we rent along the way.
    You get the idea. It’s surprisingly easy.

    So glad – yet again – that you opened my eyes. (Okay, a bit dramatic, but – heartfelt!)
    Thanks.

  5. Earin says

    Congratz on being FI.

    But honestly…yeah you struggled a little for some years. But then you had a huge income for a long time. It is quite easy to become FI on such an income. Most people don’t have that luck…

    • Adam says

      What I’ve found that’s really strange about luck is that the harder I work and the harder I try the more luck i get! Very odd…

    • MP says

      Earin–Thank you for the congrats. Yes, I was very lucky to have landed jobs that paid well for 13 years, averaging around $130,000 a year. You are right that it is easier to become FI on a higher income.

      But I don’t want your comment to discourage people from working on their FI if their salaries are modest, so I’ll tell you a story about my mother.

      My mother came to the USA at 30, widowed, with 3 young children 8 years old & under, an elderly mother, $250 ($50 per head given to us by the United States government), and no other assets.

      She started work with minimum wage as a nurse’s aid. Our family was on welfare for 3 years, after which she was too proud to continue applying for federal assistance. I still remember the moment she made that decision.

      We lived in the cheapest neighborhood in the city. My grandmother had a garden, producing so much vegetables we had to give some away. We never ate out or bought new clothes.

      After 7 years of renting, my mother bought us a tiny 2-bedroom house for $5,000 (yes, five thousand dollars) in cash in the fall of 1982. That property had another house—a standalone studio apartment—that she rented out for something like $100 a month.

      By then she worked in housekeeping at a nuclear plant. Even though she didn’t have even a first-grade education, her children went to college on scholarships/grants/loans. When the last of them went to university in a big city, she sold the property/houses (for $5,000) and moved to the big city too.

      She rented a studio apartment and found work in housekeeping at a large department store, and then for the state government.

      Eventually she bought (on mortgage) a property with 2 very modest houses—larger one to live in, smaller one to rent out. She got the landlord bug and bought a nicer house in the next town to rent out. Eventually, she sold the property with the 2 houses in the big city, moved into the nicer house in the next town and paid it off before she retired at 67 in 2012.

      According to her Social Security reports, the most she’s ever earned in one year was $22,000+, and in the few lean years when she was laid off, she earned almost nothing.

      And yet, she has accumulated hundreds of thousands of dollars (she won’t tell me exactly how much!), which she puts in a regular savings account. (She doesn’t believe in stocks, saying she doesn’t want to put money into what she doesn’t understand.)

      Many times she has given loans to her 3 children—to help with mortgage down payments, etc., once as high as $120,000.

      In retirement, she receives monthly Social Security checks and pensions, totaling more than her monthly wages before she retired. (Funny story—one of those pensions had to hunt her down to get her address because she had moved away; she didn’t know she had a pension!)

      Even now, because she doesn’t spend all of her income (probably not even half of it), she continues to save toward her nest egg.

      So, if a young widow—with 3 young children and an elderly mother, no education, limited English in a foreign country, working as a housekeeper, earning minimum wage (or less in lean years), doesn’t touch stocks or bonds—can achieve FI in 37 years, so can the average and below average American in a shorter time if they desire.

      As the saying goes, FI is not so much about what you earn, but about what you save. And my mother is the perfect poster child for this saying.

      • Ben says

        Amen! Any person born in the United States making an average salary has no excuse. In regards to your salary, it’s very likely you would not have made as much if you stayed at the same company for most of your working years. My own experience has shown me that finding the same job at another company will increase your salary much faster than staying with the same company. Good lesson for people looking to increase their salary…

        • MP says

          Ben, you’re absolutely right.

          I stayed at my first real job for 10 years–started in 1989 at $23,500 and ended in 1999 a little over $40K.

          Then I started switching firms and the salary jumped in the next 8 years–$65K, $88K, $120K, $140K, $190K.

          I’d advise people who want to do this to:

          1) be a worker of substance,
          2) practice winning interviewing skills,
          3) practice negotiations skills.

          Then deploy those 3 steps in that order. Using those out of order, and you may find them backfiring on you. I know because I’ve been on the hiring end dozens of times, and when someone with weak experience wants to negotiate, you get annoyed instead of fighting to give them more. I had 10 years of experience before I started flexing my wings. In other words, I paid my dues first.

          I was a natural interviewee, but I was terrified on my first negotiation try. It became easier with each try.

      • Semira says

        That is an absolutely amazing story. Thank you so much for sharing your mother’s journey and your own. This is all incredibly inspiring and I can’t thank you enough.

    • JamesCletus says

      Having a high salary really helps if you keep expenses down but remember time is a huge factor and just as important. MP stated her first real job was 1989 and she was able to max out her 401k. Please correct me if I am wrong but in 1989 that was $7,627. She also says she retired in 2014 or 25 years later. A quick web search for a future value calculator online and using 7% annual return makes it $41,395.03 after 25 years. Don’t get me wrong the high salary really helps because it allows for a higher savings rate if you live modestly. But using just the max 401k contributions each year for an individual, not couple, from 1989-2014 at 7% annual return will net you $734,672.03. Please feel free to double check my numbers because I did this quick and dirty. However it does seem like even just putting in the max 401k each year would still net you a great return without a high salary. Of course it doesn’t hurt but to make more money but even average income earners well under 6 figures can reasonable do it.

      • MP says

        JamesCletus–You’re in the ballpark!

        That account today is showing $625,690.

        But that’s because I took my first retirement from November 2007 through April 2009–18 months without contributing to 401(k).

        It did peak above $700,000 a few months ago…

  6. Tom M. says

    Inspiring! Obviously moving away from a person who had a dead end attitude was critical in her moving upward and onward in life. It is the people we surround ourselves with that make such a huge difference. Thanks for sharing this story. ‘Luck’ is largely generated by our mindset.

  7. London Rob says

    Congratulations MP! I can understand where people are coming from with partners who aren’t of the same mindset – my partner is similar, but fortunately she has a much lower salary than mine. That may sound odd, but it meant we bought as big a house as we could (I know people’s views, but this meant she pays the mortgage so it acts partly as an investment given its in London, and up about 50% in two years, beats my stocks!), in the meantime I am tucking away what I can, as I know I need to have enough for both of us!

    Enjoy the travelling – certainly something I would love to be able to do without the thought of having to come back to a cubicle!
    London Rob

    • MP says

      Thank you, London Rob. Not every house buy is bad, I think, especially if it’s appreciating. But I assume you have to realize that appreciation (sell the house and get the money out) at some point so that you can put that money to work for you. Over a long period of time (10 years or more?), stocks will win out. I’m only generalizing. Anyway, I definitely agree with you–cubicle life is not attractive!

      • London Rob says

        Thanks MP – you are right, this house buy is good for us, and to be honest I am hoping to achieve FI keeping this house rather than moving, but we could easily downsize and move out of London, but for now I am ploughing into the stock market come what may, and learning to ignore the red and green as it goes up and down!
        All the best, and keep enjoying the travelling!

    • MP says

      Oh SavvyFinancialLatina, to be only 25 and have all of Jim’s blog posts at your fingertips! You are very lucky! And so smart for thinking about this at your age. You go!

  8. Done by Forty says

    Nothing inspires quite like a true-to-life study. We recently began climbing up the income ladder, though we’re not on as high a rung as MP…yet. I’m continually learning that frugality and increasing income are the only two items you really need in your toolbox: the duct tape and vice-grips of the personal finance world.

    I’m beginning to come around on the idea of not owning property…though we own a lot now. The transaction costs are high enough that I wonder if we’re better off just holding the rentals going forward (and not buying more), or selling now and investing in paper assets. Sigh, time to do math.

    • MP says

      Done by Forty–Regarding your comment, “time to do math,” be brutally honest with yourself when you do that math.

      For me, buying a house at $480K and then selling it at $515K seems like I made a profit, but truth is I lost a lot of money on that whim.

      When I bought it, I spent money on fees, taxes, utilities, furniture & other furnishings, maintenance, car gas (it was a LOT farther from my work–don’t tell MMM).

      When I sold it, I spent thousands on staging, fees, taxes.

      I knew I made the right decision selling the house, so I bit the bullet and cut my losses, but I definitely lost a chunk of money. Very expensive mistake.

  9. mike says

    Not sure what to say, just an overall feeling of satisfaction reading MP’s story.

    Of course I don’t know you MP, but so proud of you. Though still friends with your ex, you had the foresight to realize a mistake and move on. Then to allow yourself to move on in jobs. And finally to “retire” and then to travel.

    Each one of those decisions would stop most people. You kept going forward.

    Way to go. You’re a great inspiration. (Thanks Jim for the post.)

  10. Pamela says

    Thank you so much for posting your story MP (and Jim of course for his great case studies!) It is wonderfully inspiring to read your tale.
    I have a question for you. I, like you, am a single woman who has been saving and investing for many years and I know that I have enough (WR of 3%) but still I can’t let go of job “security”. The golden handcuff syndrome is alive and kicking for me.
    How did you get over the fear of starting a new chapter? My job is stressful and there are so many other things I want to do in life but I get so anxious at the thought of stepping out into the unknown. What did you do to overcome your doubts and fears (please tell me you had some and I’m not the only one!)
    Congratulations and thanks so much for your insights!
    Pamela

    • MP says

      Hi Pamela, Thank you for your comments and sharing your fears. Oh, if only I can reach out and hold your hands!

      Ultimately, it was the work stress that tipped me over–for both times that I retired.

      I had plenty of doubts and fears. I think I feared more things than most people.

      I did NOT get over my fears and doubts before I jumped.

      Rather, I jumped–in spite of my fears and doubts.

      But like an OCD person, I DID do my math over and over again before I jumped. 😀

      And once I jumped, the fears and doubts slowly ebbed away.

      The firsts were hard:

      –the first month that showed no income deposit in your bank account (this has got the be THE hardest to witness).

      –the first month that showed negative cash flow (breathe…slowly).

      –watching your checking account grow smaller and smaller.

      –first tax reporting (an excellent tax accountant is worth her weight in gold) and seeing how little your annual income was.

      –the first health insurance bill that you have to pay out of your own pocket; heck, every health insurance bill that comes thereafter!

      I have not had to withdraw from my Vanguard accounts yet (still living off of my checking account), but when that day comes, I think my heart will stop for a second.

      If you have passions/hobbies that you want to pursue, then start planning them before you give notice to your employer. The key for me was looking forward to fun and exciting adventures and planning for them. My forward-looking adventure in my first retirement was a two-month trip to Kenya to work with HIV/AIDS patients with their income-generating projects. For this second retirement, I planned a 3-month tour of Europe.

      In the beginning you will be tempted to live like a pauper, afraid that your money will run out before you do. It’s okay to be afraid and watch your spending like a hawk when you need to do so to feel comfortable. But feel the fear. Own it. Then inch or walk through it. I think it’s important not to hide from your emotions. But it’s also important to move forward, even if only a little step.

      If you feel yourself afraid to give philanthropically like you did before, then it may help for you to personally witness those with much less than you. You may feel so much richer than they, you may see that a full life could be had with much less, you may experience other different impressions.

      That’s all I can think of for now at this late hour in Barcelona. I’d be more than happy to respond if you have other questions. In the meantime, warm virtual hugs for you!

      • RobDiesel says

        I’ve thought about that a lot and I’ve mulled over how I would do it.

        While a clean break might be nice, I think I’d allay my fears AND slowly get used to the income part of my account looking worse by going in to work and talk to my boss about maybe not working Mondays anymore.
        If that, and the commensurate drop in income doesn’t seem so bad, then next step might be to eliminate Fridays from your schedule too.

        At that point I’d be pretty happy. If I can pull 32 hours in the remaining week, I can probably keep my insurance and 401(k) etc.
        If they balk, then you can flex your “f-you, I’m quitting” muscle and see what they say. I mean, nicely. Of course. “You know, my home life is more important but I love working here. If I am not able to spend more time at home/with kids/travelling/whatever, then I think it would serve us better if I just retire” or maybe “remain to train my replacement” or something.

        Idle thoughts. My ultimate goal is to retire early and then when I feel the need for some extra cash for something extravagant, I’ll pop in at McDonald’s for a month and earn a few extra shekels.

        MP – thank you for sharing your mothers’ tale. Very touching and inspiring.
        If you’re ever in San Antonio (the shitty one, in Texas) or Austin, allow me to save you the cost of a beer or coffee by treating you to one! Yeah, that’s part of my “charitable donation”. haha

        • MP says

          RobDiesel–You’ll find that you won’t have to pop into McD’s for a job. With experience and good references, you can moonlight as a consultant/contractor if/when you need to.

          After I retired the first time, another former boss called saying he had lost one of his marketing staff and asked if I’d be willing to fill in until they found a replacement. I was there for a few months and made new contacts, who later referred me to another contract gig (which I turned down, because I’d rather travel!).

          And, hey, don’t knock San Antonio, TX! 🙂 Thanks for the invite. Maybe when I next go there or Austin… But I’ll fight you to pay for our coffee/beer.

      • Pamela says

        Thank you so much MP for your reply! I so need those virtual hugs!!!!

        It’s so inspirational to hear from someone who has actually retired early and the steps you went through and continue to go through.

        In retirement I plan to write and paint and have already had some success but not enough to support myself. So when I retire early I can hear every relative/friend I have saying “starving artist grumble grumble must be crazy grumble grumble what is she thinking?” Did you have a lot of support or encouragement from friends and family?

        I know I need to stick to my plan which has always been to get a “real” job, become FI, retire early so I can write and paint without any financial worries or pressures. However now that the RE part of the plan has arrived, I’m stalled.

        Thank you so much for showing it CAN be done. And done well!
        (Ola! and have some tapas for me!)

        • MP says

          Hi Pamela–You wrote, “In retirement I plan to write and paint and have already had some success but not enough to support myself.”

          Why would you need to support yourself through writing and painting if you’re already FI? Don’t you want to do those things just for the joys that they bring you (and any $ made would be a bonus)?

          With FI, you won’t be a starving anybody–artist or whatever else you’ll be.

          As for what other people say… Eff that! With FI, you’ve EARNED the right to listen to only yourself, especially since you are a single person with no dependents.

          But you may be surprised at other people’s reactions to your early retirement.

          I received apparent support from everyone. Two people did express worry at first that I’d lead a purpose-less life until I told them about my plans for volunteer work after 2 years of travel. My mother was thrilled.

          I think people’s responses reflect 2 things:

          1) How you have conducted yourself in the past. If you’ve shown yourself to be financially responsible, your announced decision will be seen as another sound move.

          2) How people view their own lives. Your announcement will cause people to assess their own financial lives (painful & regrettable thoughts for many people) and imagine themselves quitting their jobs (unfathomable for many people, as we here know why).

          People’s reactions are largely based on the latter, so it’s not about you. It’s really about them. Your FI will either be a wake-up call for them or a painful reminder that their lives are not how they want it to be.

          So, forget the real or imagined reactions from people who have no claim on how you should conduct your life.

          If you’re not ready yet to pull the trigger, then that’s a valid point to stay put until you’re comfortable. But don’t let the reasons be about other (non-dependent) people’s reactions.

          (More virtual hugs!)

    • Ang says

      Pamela, MP provided a wonderful response, but if you want some more assurance/a look into the step by step psyche of someone else who recently pulled the trigger, look at livingafi.com

      He actually explains how he went into therapy to finally give himself permission to leave work and not worry about the future, then explains how great its been since he’s pulled the trigger. There’s a lot of self reflection that might be helpful to you

      • Pamela says

        Thank you so much Ang! I’ve never read his website before and after reading just a few entries I’m seeing a lot of similarities between his thought processes and mine regarding retiring early.

        • Pamela says

          Thanks Jim and thanks for all your posts! I find them extremely helpful especially the posts about home ownership being a bad investment. Relatives of mine whose house did not go up in value at all after fifteen years still think that I am crazy for “throwing my money away on rent.” Thank you for putting a sane perspective on the whole home ownership issue.

  11. Fervent Finance says

    Thanks for sharing your story MP. I’m at the begging of my FI path (just started last year, 27 now) and it’s great to hear such stories of success. It also helps to know the bumps along the way won’t make or break you. I’m at a fork in the road now where I am trying to decide if I want to continue down my current path (high stress, higher income appreciation over career) or a different path (perhaps less pay, less stress, less hours). Currently I’m sticking with my current patch but I’m sure than might change a few times before I get to my FI goal 🙂

    • MP says

      Fervent Finance–That is indeed a difficult fork. My sympathies. Good for you for actively thinking about and taking care of your financial health at a very young age! You’re way ahead of your generation.

  12. Mike says

    I liked reading your story. Real life stories always make it easier to apply the lessons to my situation. I’d love to see the power point presentation. It would come in handy for showing my own family and friends. Any chance you’d share it?

    • NWOutlier says

      I would love to see the power point as well. I’m always having difficulty expressing the importance (huge benefits) of savings to others, the choices it will give them, the peice of mind if an emergency comes up… etc…

      Let us know if you would like to share.

      Best Regards,

      Steve

    • Tracy says

      I’d be interested in it too! I’ve been wanting to come up with some sort of teaching tool for my younger family members, but can’t figure out how to start it and what to say to simplify things. I’m working on my FI late, but they’ve got so many years ahead of them!

      • payitoff says

        tagging myself here too! i could use some visuals, i’ve read the stock series many times but definitely need more help.

        MP, Thank YOU for sharing your story! Hope you can still read this, so grateful to have people like you thinking of inspiring others.

          • Caleb says

            Ditto on the PPT. I’ve been giving desk-side briefs on the principles, but a polished product would make that easier.

        • JP says

          Thank you MP for your story – truly inspirational. I have been monitoring for the PPT as well as many co-workers have been interested in the tidbits I have learned through this site.

    • MP says

      Hi–Regarding the PowerPoint, let me figure out the best way to share it publicly online (maybe Google Docs) and send the link later.

      Also I need to consider whether the deck can stand alone as-is without me there to explain the details. The bullet points were meant to be talking points–ticklers, really–for me to elaborate further when I gave the presentation.

      So, I may post it on YouTube with voice-over as elaboration. I don’t know. I’ve never done that before.

      All that as to say please give me some time to get it out there, especially advice on FI.

      Lastly, for the next few weeks more I’m in cities I’ve never been, and selfishly I’d rather be out there exploring…

      • Michael says

        Thanks for sharing your and your mom’s stories! And thanks for considering sharing the powerpoint! If that happens, hopefully JL can amend the post with that too. Clearly that caught the eye of many readers =]

  13. Julie says

    Thanks to Jim for sharing MP’s story, and double thanks to MP because she opened up not only about her own history but also that of her mother who apparently set an excellent example for her children.

    MP:
    Since my husband and I graduated college in 1988 and 1989, we all are probably about the same age, and we are both envious of you for having already reached the dream we’d like to live but also thankful that your example can give us inspiration. Congratulations, and well done!

    You have traveled in some of our favorite places (Cinque Terre, Venice, Florence, and isn’t that view from Positano?, etc.). Since you seem to like the same places we do, and since you also have been to Spain, you might be interested in walking the Camino de Santiago de Compostela. You have the time, and it’s magical. The communal energy is amazing, even if you have no religious leanings whatsoever. Though given recent happenings near Astorga, do take precautions if you decide to go. Or perhaps you’ve already been?

    Good luck, and thanks so much!

    • MP says

      Hi Julie–Thanks for kind words!

      Yes, that looks like Positano. My own pics aren’t that pristine. 🙂

      I have not done the Camino de Santiago de Compostela, and have not heard of it. Thanks for the recommendation. Maybe someday!

  14. Tracey says

    MP – Thank you for sharing your story. You are an incredibly open-hearted, generous, and courageous woman. I’m very inspired by everything you’ve shared. Is there a particular resource you use to learn about volunteer programs abroad and in the U.S.?

    • MP says

      Hi Tracey–Your words are too generous. Thank you.

      I don’t have one particular resource that I use for volunteer programs.

      For U.S. volunteer opportunities, I just google my geographic area. You’ll find lots of resources. Just pick one or two that interest you and contact them. I personally lean toward shelters for abused women, homeless shelters, English teaching. Some you’ll like and continue. Others you won’t like and discontinue.

      For volunteer programs abroad, I used my own contacts and Google.

      When I volunteered in Kenya for 2 months, I did so through a friend who was a director of a program there. She’s no longer there, and that program is in need of an overhaul, so I can’t recommend it at the moment.

      When I wanted to volunteer in Vietnam for 2 weeks, I googled “volunteer in Vietnam.” After reading about different programs, I chose volunteerhq.org (an international volunteer clearing house?), who placed me with Volunteers for Peace Vietnam (VPV). At VPV I chose to teach English to orphaned/in-need children. Others worked with disabled children/infants.

      I had a very good experience in Vietnam and made friends and contacts there, so I plan to go back to work on future projects, but not through volunteerhq or VPV, because now I don’t need the formal introduction/placement like before.

      If you’re interested in international volunteer work and don’t know where to start, I would recommend volunteerhq.org (not necessarily because they are the best–I don’t know that–but because I used them once and had a good experience). They cover many countries and interests. They pair you with an organization (a separate entity from volunteerhq.org) in the country, and then you communicate and work with that in-country organization.

  15. InsiderAccountant says

    That’s an impressive story, especially when you consider the various bumps along the way. My story has been quite straightforward in comparison, and while I still have quite a way to go, listening to your story makes me quite grateful that my path seems a bit easier!

    It’s also interesting that even for a person who has been very successful in the FI journey, lifestyle inflation (via that nice house you bought and sold!) can still creep up and bite you in the arse if you’re not paying enough attention!

  16. Fred says

    MP – Thank you so much for sharing your story. As a 20 year old who’s still in college, reading your story gives me hope that I can be as financially prudent as you are throughout life.

    Thank you for being a beacon of financial prudence, and I hope you continue to enjoy the fruits of your labor!

    God bless,

    Fred

  17. Ang says

    MP,

    My favorite part of your story was this:

    “(She doesn’t believe in stocks, saying she doesn’t want to put money into what she doesn’t understand.)”

    I think too many people overreach and put resources such as money and their precious time towards things that they don’t understand. Good on your mother to recognize her circle of competence (living simply/frugally) and not doing something they don’t understand.

    While Jim has done a fantastic job educating everyone on this site, I think sometimes his message gets lost amongst people who follow his teachings. You need to know yourself/your own tolerance. 100% stocks isn’t for everyone. For example, you (MP) isn’t bothered one bit by swings of 10-15% (which in your case is paper loss of 6 figures!), but some people can’t help themselves when they see red, they panic and they sell. For them, 100% stocks is not the right allocation, even if long term that’s what gives the best returns. I’m glad you’ve had such a successful life so far and I wish you the best in the future!

  18. Jan says

    great to read this and see people doing things differently – I’m looking forward to downsizing in a few years and people responses are interesting to say the least! Love reading the case studies, very encouraging

  19. Rachel says

    What an inspiring story. I especially love that she uses her financial position to help others. I often struggle with wanting to reach FI soon, but also be a generous person. Her post reassures me that I can do both. Thank you for the encouragement.

  20. Valerie says

    Epic. I failed big time on the partner thingy. That is over and done with. Now, 18K worth of much needed dental work paid off (with no interest) and 22K in the bank to boot. Took 12 months. I am so very grateful to you for the wisdom you share, and to you and the others for being willing to present these life stories. It gives me encouragement I am on the right path and can, indeed, live a enlivened life and also help others.

    Thank you JCollins.

    • jlcollinsnh says

      Thanks Valerie…

      I appreciate the kind words and am glad what you find here helps.

      I agree, MP’s story is epic and inspirational. A big counter point to those who claim it can’t be done.

      Congrats on your own progress. Sounds like you are firmly on the path and can look forward to watching your wealth snowball.

      Enjoy the journey!

  21. Dofu says

    Hi MP, thanks for sharing and being so inspirational!

    I wonder if you can share your thoughts on how you manage health care as that seems to be one of my biggest “fears” before making the jump to Fi.

    Thanks,
    Dofu

    • MP says

      Hi Dofu,

      When I quit my job at the end of June 2015, I bought the least expensive health insurance plan through BlueCross BlueShield and paid $255.44 monthly premium for 6 months.

      If I wanted to continue the same high-deductible plan for 2016, the monthly premium would be $323.80.

      Being healthy, I decided to self-insure for routine medical and dental care and to buy emergency care.

      I bought emergency care through World Nomads Travel Insurance based on a couple of blog posts by travelfreedompodcast, particularly this one (if you read it, then also read the comments, which are helpful too):

      http://www.travelfreedompodcast.com/digital-nomad-travel-insurance-world-nomads-review/

      I chose this type of insurance ($846 for 12 months) because:

      1) I want to make sure that if I need emergency evacuation, I wouldn’t be hit with a possible $300,000 bill.

      2) Or if I have an emergency sickness or accident medical expense, I’d be covered up to $100,000.

      3) Or if I need a non-medical emergency evacuation, I would be covered up to $25,000.

      4) I plan to be outside of the U.S. for at least 330 full days during the 12-month period, so I wouldn’t be penalized by the IRS for not buying Obamacare.

      I’ve read other FI bloggers’ thoughts on health insurance that I think you might find helpful. They are:

      “Going Naked” by Retire Early Lifestyle
      http://retireearlylifestyle.com/blog/2011/12/20/going-naked/

      Post archives on healthcare by GoCurryCracker
      http://www.gocurrycracker.com/tag/health-insurance/

      Good luck! I had the same fears before I quit my job, but reading about what other people have done, some for many years already, really helped.

  22. Caitlin Brittain says

    Bartleby the Scrivener is excellent and underrated.
    The story of MP’s mom made my jaw drop. I guess there are really no excuses. I am curious how young (precisely) MP retired.
    I will have to do as she did and read all of your articles – I found your blog via your very helpful book, thank you!

    • jlcollinsnh says

      Hi Caitlin…

      You are the first I know of who found my book before this blog. Mind sharing how you came across my book?

      Glad they both have helped.

      Your comment inspired me to reread this Case Study. Truly an inspiring story.

      Few people seem to have ever read Bartleby, nice to meet someone who has!

  23. Mary says

    I’m late to the party by two years, but this woman’s life has been my dream since I first climbed on to a plane to Russia completely terrified and excited at 22. I spent a year backpacking Asia and it was the happiest year of my life. I’m 28 and somedays I feel like I’m both so far away from the dreams of 22-year-old me and on the road to MP’s life/living out my “don’t have to work” dreams…but I have to keep on keepin’ on.

    Thank you both for sharing, MP & jlcollinsnh. This is my true dream, to travel deeply, always strive to live a life full of new and wonderful experiences, and figure out a way to give back to others. I hate working for the man, but I’m still struggling along on my own two feet which I am proud of. I’ve definitely made some mistakes (6k debt right now but working on it) but I will learn from shared wisdom and keep moving forward.

  24. MP says

    Hi Mr. Collins (and readers),

    I am re-reading the stock series and came across this case study and MP’s comments…does anyone know if she posted the ppt deck she referred to (or the youtube video)?

    Thanks!
    MP (another one)

  25. Michael Nelson says

    MP, I’m a few years late to the “party” so to speak but just wanted to let you know how much I enjoyed reading your story! It sounds like you are living your dream so congrats! I just discovered JL’s blog recently and just finished reading his book this week so I have a lot to catch up on. Like you I am FI (but not RE yet) but wish I had this information a few decades ago as it would have simplified my path. Thanks for sharing!

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